Congratulations! You’ve successfully relaunched the Rocky series for a whole new generation, perfectly encapsulating what made the franchise great while updating it for a modern sensibility. So, what after Creed? Where’s a sequel to a legacy sequel to go? That’s the task ahead for Creed II.

With Steven Caple Jr. stepping in for Ryan Coogler as director, the second film follows Adonis Creed (Michael B. Jordan) as he claims the title, only to find the past creeping its way back. None other than Ivan Drago (Dolph Lundgren) — who killed Donnie’s father in the ring — and his boxer son Viktor (Florian Munteanu) reappear with a showdown in mind.

Jason of Binge Movies joins Franchise Detours to discuss 2018’s Creed II for an epic-length chat. We’ll cover whether the film is helped or hindered by its ties to 1985’s Rocky IV, how it undermines its theme of fathers and sons, and if it serves as a fitting final appearance for Sylvester Stallone’s Rocky.

This may be the swan song for “The Italian Stallion” on the big screen. So join us for a heart-wrenching journey through the entire Rocky franchise to date. Next up? The most recent entry, 2023’s Stallone-less Creed III!

After Rocky Balboa restored the franchise to its former glory — winning back fans and critics who were left cold after Rocky V — it really had seemed like this time the world had seen the last of Sylvester Stallone’s iconic character. But that was before director Ryan Coogler got involved.

Coogler is now best known for the cultural phenomenon that was Black Panther, but he had made only one feature film when he stepped into the director’s chair for 2015’s Creed. Moreover, the film was to star frequent Coogler’s Fruitvale Station star Michael B. Jordan, coming off of Fant4stic, opposite Stallone’s seventh round as the retired champ himself.

The Lady-Wan of Screen Run joins Franchise Detours to discuss how its director and star went the distance with 2015’s Creed . We’ll discuss how the film honors the previous Rocky films, why it needs to earn its place within the beloved franchise, and whether it’s the best legacy sequel ever made.

While the story started by Rocky had seemingly come to a close, Sylvester Stallone’s dissatisfaction with the fifth film — and perhaps the declining state of his own career — led him to consider bringing his signature character back for just one more fight. And thus, he returned to write, direct and star in Rocky Balboa, released 30 years after the first film.

Film critic Phoenix Clouden joins us to discuss 2006’s Rocky Balboa, the film which defied the odds to earn critical acclaim and box office success. We’ll discuss how the film handles the absence of Talia Shire’s Adrian, why it feels like a necessary project for both Rocky and Stallone alike, and where it feels the door open for the character’s return nearly a decade later in Creed.

We’ll also delve into the film’s thematic elements, such as aging and legacy. Serving as both a conclusion to Rocky’s story and a fresh entry point for a new generation, we’ll discuss how Rocky Balboa encapsulates the film’s message of perseverance. Join us for an engaging discussion celebrating the enduring spirit of one of cinema’s most beloved characters.